IRISHMAN (1929)

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IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by yorkieman » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:45 pm

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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by Bill Harvey » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:19 am

IRISHMAN (3) (1929 – 1961)
O.N. 160827. 222g. 1n. 100.0 x 25.1 x 12.3 feet.
T.3-cyl. (14½”, 24” & 40” x 27”) engine by Earle’s Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd., Hull. 89nhp. 850ihp.
26.1.1929: Launched by Cochrane & Sons Ltd., Selby (Yard No. 1041) for the United Towing Company Ltd., Hull.
4.1929: Completed.
Erroneous entry re casualty removed from here on 9th Feb 2012
1961: Sold to Rimorchiatori Sardi SpA., Italy and renamed GENNARGENTU.
1965: Renamed BONARIA.
1986: Demolished.
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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by E28 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:10 pm

I have reason to believe the details of her being sunk on 8 may 1941 to be false.
As promulgated in the post above, and to be found in other sources.
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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:46 pm

Sean :

Do you know something no one else knows, then? If so, let's be having it, it can't be classified after all this time ?
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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by Jaap Bijl » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:00 am

It was the IRISHMAN of 1896 which was mined, then owned by Vectis Transports Co.Ltd., Cowes.

ss. IRISHMAN (1) 1896-1898 (Gray)
99 brt., 330 ipk.
26,14 x 5,21 x 2,51 m.
1896 Cook, Welton & Gemmell Ltd., Beverley (b.159)
Comp. 2 cil. Tindall
1898 IRISHMAN, Medina Steam Tug & Water Co. Ltd., Cowes
1912 IRISHMAN, Cowes Steam Tug Co., Cowes
1914 (30/07), 1920 (06/07) Royal Navy
1930 IRISHMAN, Cowes Steam Tug & Transport Co. Ltd., Cowes
1934 IRISHMAN, Vectis Transport Co. Ltd., Cowes
1941 (08/05) nabij Portsmouth op mijn gelopen en gezonken.
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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by Jaap Bijl » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:00 am

It was the IRISHMAN of 1896 which was mined.
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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by Bill Harvey » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:23 pm

Jaap,

Thank you for pointing this out.

I originally had the casualty detail against the later vessel as posted above but later realised my error and corrected the entry to the older vessel but omitted to remove the erroneous line from the later vessel and unfortunately it was included on our Adsteam CD.

The offending line has been removed from the earlier post

Bill

IRISHMAN (1) (1896 – 1898) iron screw tug.
O.N. 105093. 99g. 1n. 85.9 x 17.1 x 8.3 feet.
C.2-cyl. (12” & 32” x 21”) engine by Tindall & Company, Vulcan Iron Works, Hull. 70nhp.
320ihp.
20.2.1896: Launched by Cook, Welton and Gemmell, Hull (Yard No.159) for T. Gray &
Company Ltd., (George Gray, manager),Hull.
13.4.1896: Completed.
9.5.1898:Sold to the Medina Steam Tug and Water Company Ltd., Cowes (William T. Mahy,
manager).
1912: Sold to Cowes Steam Tug Company Ltd., Cowes.
30.7.1914 until 1919: On Admiralty harbour service at Portsmouth.
25.2.1926: Vessel offered for sale but was withdrawn soon thereafter.
1930: Sold to Cowes Steam Tug and Transport Company Ltd., Cowes.
1934: Sold to Vectis Transport Company Ltd.,Cowes.
8.5.1941: Exploded a mine off Portsmouth and sank.

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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by E28 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:13 pm

Yes indeed, as Jaap and Bill have added, it is that Irishman which was sunk on 8 May 1941.

The mine was aerial laid in Langstone harbour, between Portsea which includes Portsmouth and Southsea, and to the East, Hayling Island.
Her remains can still be seen at very low tides on the Sword sands, posn 50 80 50 N, 01 02 22 W.
Her master was C J Young. He died together with either 3 or 4 crew.
However, she was not alone when sunk.
Apparently, she was in attendance to the dredger FW No 20 of 80 tons, which was also sunk with either some of or her entire crew, 3 i believe. Cannot find details of her.
Help appreciated.
Would anyone have a photo of this Irishman please.
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Re: IRISHMAN (1929)

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:24 pm

A Naval History website records :

"Tug Irishman (99 GRT) and the Dredger F W No. 20 (83 GRT) blew up off Sword Sands in Langston Harbour, Portsmouth. Five killed from the Tug and three killed from the Dredger"
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