Page 1 of 1


Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:31 pm
by Henk
1915 - 1917
Société Anonyme de Remorquage à Hélice - Antwerpen.
Build 1915 at Wed.C.Boele & Zn.- Slikkerveer.
26,42 x 6,48 x x m.
121 grt.
12-09-1917 in British Service named HS-3 (CAPELINES) sunk by U-50 with gunfire 18 miles NW ofCape Sines.

No picture available

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:21 pm
by davidships
C2cy 43nhp 390ihp 10kn 1scr Boele

1915 evacuated to England
1915 on War Office, Inland Water Transport Directorate service as HS 3 (mng C W Kellock & Co, London)
[what is "CAPELINES"? Looks like "Cape Sines"]

sunk by submarine UB 50 [not U 50], towing refrigerated barge RB 10, which also sunk (England for Mesopotamia)

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:09 pm
by Henk
Could be David. It is in French handwritten and a bad copy so hard to read.

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:45 pm
by E28
The loss of this little tug in itself is insignificant, and when the co of UB 50, Kapitanleutnant Franz Becker first spotted her with her infinitely larger charge making slow headway he would no doubt have been highly bemused.
I imagine his thoughts would have turned instantly to the goodies in RB 10, so having surfaced he would pay scant regard to HS 3 or her small crew. He would have simply ensured they got in their boat safely, had provisions and water for a few days, cast them adrift with an oar before making a search of the barge. A small coastal u boat can only acquire so much booty from ones foes, so look for any secret papers, grab what you need and consider how to despatch the pair.
This was not done by either torpedo or gun. If they did not simply open a few valves, special lightweight explosives were carried for just such eventualities, a hasty and moderately quiet coup de grace. No need to awaken the entire neighbourhood and tempt providence.
Job done, dive and congratulate one another on a further success.
And success was what UB 50 enjoyed in shovel fulls.

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:52 pm
by E28
The means of destroying soft, that is merchant, targets which i briefly mentioned above was by a small demolition charge.
They were 4.5" diameter X 7.5" long (114 X 190mm) with a 7' (2.135M) fine fuse wire of 6-10 mins duration, fitted with a manual firing pistol. Approx 50 were carried and tended to be used in pairs. Lowered below the water line, ideally adjacent the engine room.
Once placed in position the single fuse was ignited by pressing the plunger.
These demolition charges could also be used in the boat itself if scuttling was deemed essential or the destruction of the boat if aground. Placed strategically they would cause considerable damage. On a torpedo ideally.

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:16 pm
by Henk
Thanks for the exploinations Sean!

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:23 pm
by E28
UB 50 was of the UB48-53 class, all from Blohm & Voss in Hamburg, completing during early 1917.
They were twice the size of previous UB types which were referred to as coastal boats but these were closer to small ocean going.
Her 4 sisters 48, 49, 51, 53 served with the Austro Hungarian navy with German crews as U79, 80, 81, 84.

180' 9" x 10' 6" x 12' 0"
4x 19.7" bow and 1 x 19.7" stern, 10 torpedoes carried. 1 x 3.4" gun, some carried 1 x 4.1".
502 tons surfaced, 680 dived.
2 diesels, 2 shaft, 1060hp surfaced, 13.5 knots, 5700 miles at 8 knots
1000hp dived, 8 knots max for 70 miles at 3 knots.
Heavy oil, 60 tons including use of 2 ballast tanks as oil fuel stowage, fully compensating.
124 lead acid battery cells for running submerged.
Crewed by 7 officers and 28 others.

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:33 pm
by davidships
I wouldn't describe the barge as infinitely larger.

RB 10 - 151.3 x 25.5 feet
HS 3 - 90 x 22 feet

I suspect that the U-boat captain would have been more interested in any documents he would find on board the British Army's tug than a nondescript barge. Although I have no confirmation, I do not think that these refrigerated barges were sent out with foodstuffs, but may have carried dry military stores, or even ammunition.

Re: SAMSON (2)

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:51 pm
by E28
I wonder if the master of HS 3 had any vague sense of deja vu before embarking on his rather hazardous tow.
If he didn't he certainly ought to have.

Only 3 weeks previously the tug HS 4 with her charge, barge RB 6 had been intercepted and stopped 130 miles WSW of Ushant, ( Ouessant ) France making the voyage South.

Guilty on that occasion was the attentive minelaying u boat UC 72 and the procedure for stopping HS 3 would have been much the same as that which HS 4 and her crew went through. Except they were somewhat further from the coast.
It was August 21st when the pair were despatched to the bottom at the Northern extremities of the Bay of Biscay.

Which went down first i ask, the smaller HS 4 or the 750 ton tow RB 6. Likewise with HS 3 and RB 10.