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Renfrew Brothers of Irvine

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Fri May 16, 2014 8:40 pm

Anyone know of a Company of the above name who were allegedly involved in shipbreaking at Irvine ?
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Re: Renfrew Brothers of Irvine

Post by iain crosbie » Sat May 17, 2014 11:59 am

There is an article in the Glasgow Herald of August 23rd 1907 referring to engines for a vessel "Olive" (built in Paisley) being built by Renfrew Brothers, Irvine. That is the only reference I could find by searching in the Google Newspaper Archive, although I didn't search any other newspapers. Perhaps you'd get some more info from the local history museum or at the SMM.

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Re: Renfrew Brothers of Irvine

Post by yorkieman » Sat May 17, 2014 12:43 pm

Our new database shows 16 vessels engined by them in period 1903-1909.
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Re: Renfrew Brothers of Irvine

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sat May 17, 2014 1:45 pm

Iain and George :

Thanks for responses - much obliged. Iain, The S.S. OLIVE that you mentioned was broken here at Troon, where she arrived on 14th June 1955, as the S.S. SUDDEN, with breaking completed on 6th October 1955.

Yes - they were Engine Manufacturers, mainly if not exclusively steam reciprocating engines, but they may have separately, or at a later date, become involved in the breaking of ships, at Harbour Works, Irvine, - that was what I was trying to identify.

Will expand the search ... :D
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Re: Renfrew Brothers of Irvine

Post by Robert » Sat May 17, 2014 11:20 pm

Your interesting messages are meat and drink to me.
Iain's mention of the launch and engine reference allowed me to check the other launches said to have been the previous day. They were OLIVE, BAHADUR, PREMIER, LADY BLANCHE, VIDAR on page 9 column 3.
George pointed out the sixteen engines listed by Renfrew Brothers & Co and realised that this can be found easily in the advanced search. I'd missed a few thank you.
But the OLIVE's scrapping had me struggling Angus. The database scrapping date of 1951 conflicts with yours of 1955 and the SUDDEN renaming has escaped me entirely. Perhaps she was unregistered.
I have the PINE being renamed as SECOND and scrapped in 1955.
Anything you can add on the SUDDEN renaming would be good.

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Re: Renfrew Brothers of Irvine

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sun May 18, 2014 5:08 pm

Well, old timer, once again I learn from my Masters :cry:

I have totally confused the issue here and would clarify as follows :

Fullerton of Paisley built two almost identical coasting vessels in 1907, Yard Nos. 197 and 198. They were both the same beam, were almost the same length too, and both had steam compound engines. They were both were for Newry, in Northern Ireland.

Yard No. 197 was launched on 21-08-1907 (O.N. 115639) and was named the OLIVE
Yard No. 198 was launched on 25-09-1907 (O.N. 115640) and was named the PINE

The OLIVE retained her name until the end
The PINE retained her name until 1940, when it changed to SECOND

The OLIVE ownership was :
Carlingford Lough S.S. Coy. Limited from 1907 until 1913
Frontier Town S.S. Coy. Limited from 1913-1951

The PINE ownership was :
Frontier Town S.S. Coy Limited from 1907 until 1937
Stewart & Partners from 1937 until 1940 (as the PINE)
Stewart & Partners from 1940 until 1955 (as the SECOND)

The original OLIVE went for breaking at Llanelly on 15-09-1951

The original PINE, later to be named SECOND, went for breaking at Troon on 14-06-1955

Sorry for all the confusion, it's ma auld age, annat, gettin' well past it noo ..... :(
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Re: Renfrew Brothers of Irvine

Post by iain crosbie » Mon May 19, 2014 5:03 pm

I have found the Google newspaper archive to be very useful. When researching some local history on Lochwinnoch I found some information in an Australian newspaper, which carried "News from Home" articles.
I'll keep looking and let you know if I can find out any more about the Renfrew/Irvine shipbreaking venture.

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