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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by dougie-coull » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:18 pm

Fairly unusual (I think) shot of her tied up overnight at Greenock - http://www.dougie-coull-photography.co. ... -msxRjvV/A.
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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by bobrobert » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:02 am

Possibly it has problems. I got off at Helensburgh last night. Waverley didn't go alongside Helensburgh pier in it's usual manner. The passengers disembarked whilst Waverley was at an angle at the east end of the pier. It then reversed well to the west of the pier before turning to head for Greenock. It wasn't low tide and Waverley was in a position west of the pier that seemed unusual. It was 15 minutes late into Helensburgh - nothing unusual in that - so it had time to make Glasgow as it usually does on a Thursday evening. Regarding the new website am I correct in stating there isn't a news page that is updated any longer or is my ageing brain failing me?

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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by alasdairmac » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:38 pm

Whatever the Helensburgh issue was, she appears to have positioned up to Pacific Quay OK last night and is operating today's schedule as normal.

PS yes, the news ticker has disappeared, not that they usually updated it promptly anyway. Maybe something better on the way.

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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by bobrobert » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:29 pm

Leaving Helensburgh yesterday evening.

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Post by riverman » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:41 pm

That's a cracker departing Helensburgh, I really like that one.
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Post by riverman » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:43 pm

A good crowd on the old girl today at Helensburgh, weather sunny with cloud.
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Post by riverman » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:46 pm

Alongside Helensburgh today.
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Post by riverman » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:51 pm

Aff tae Dunoon and destinations beyond. :D
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Post by mcmahos » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:58 pm

I've deleted the last couple of messages re nationalities to avoid any unnecessary arguments. I was initially going to lock the thread, but given that this is the main thread covering the Waverley's season, I feel it's better to keep it open, remove the offending posts, and move on.

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Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:32 pm

Good decision, HH, the thread is still necessary given the interest and popularity of the subject vessel, so, without personally having seen the potentially offending postings, censorship is absolutely okay if this unusual (at least for a Clyde-Maritime Forum) occurrence has taken place and threatens the erstwhile harmonious existence herein.

I have to say am not a great fan of Waverely any longer - too much exposure, and an off-putting management style has put paid to that, but the vessel is a Clydeside icon and brings a lot of pleasure to many, so we have to respect that, warts and all.
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Post by yorkieman » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:48 am

Yes a correct decision, not to be taken lightly though and trust those involved will understand. I think it was just the choice of words at one point in first message that could have been better, as the underlying intention/rationale was brought out better in the follow-up. Hope this does not deter from repeating the several other points.
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Post by Clydebuilt1971 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:01 pm

Angus Mac Kinnon wrote:Good decision, HH, the thread is still necessary given the interest and popularity of the subject vessel, so, without personally having seen the potentially offending postings, censorship is absolutely okay if this unusual (at least for a Clyde-Maritime Forum) occurrence has taken place and threatens the erstwhile harmonious existence herein.

I have to say am not a great fan of Waverely any longer - too much exposure, and an off-putting management style has put paid to that, but the vessel is a Clydeside icon and brings a lot of pleasure to many, so we have to respect that, warts and all.
I agree with HH also and also with Angus too. Whilst it still puts a spring in my step to see her there were too many negatives attached to being involved and knowing more than you need to at times. Best out of it in that case. Sadly for the past two seasons it has also put me off even going on board.

BUT we must look at all the effort and angst that has went into (1) Getting her into WSN service in the 1st place and (2) The many many people who have contributed their time and effort into keeping her in service!

I raise a glass to them all...... :beer:

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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:36 pm

Agree entirely - your own sterling contributions alongside that of the other loyal stalwarts whose names you well know, are what make the entire situation that has developed re WAVERLEY so sad and not really acceptable. You are all to be commended and let us not forget SC's major contributions over the years - it must be very disappointing for him of all people to be reading these negative aspects.
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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by bobrobert » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:09 pm

Despite being on the Waverley a dozen times last year, six this year and at least fifty times in the last six or seven years I haven't heard about the "problems" that are occurring in the background. A lot of "hints" that all isn't well but no substantiation. Does one have to go to an AGM to find out? Is there any information on the internet that explains the situation or are Waverley members trying to keep it quiet?

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Post by Clydebuilt1971 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:05 pm

If you are a member of the Paddle Steamer Preservation Society and attend the branch AGMs then more information is available. The point I was trying to make is that sometimes knowing less is better and you just enjoy the ship for what she is.

I hope this season has been a good one for her as the weather has certainly been with her and will hopefully stay with her as she heads down south next week. Sailing on Waverley on the Thames or the South Coast (never did the Bristol Channel) is an experience not to missed!!

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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by riverman » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:50 pm

Waverley on the east knuckle Helensburgh Pier today. :thumbup: Cloudy overcast with light drizzle at times, but brightening up later. :)
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Post by riverman » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:54 pm

Quiet Waverley today alongside Helensburgh.
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Post by riverman » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:57 pm

Backing off the pier. :D
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Post by SCameron » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:44 pm

Check out the two special flags being flown above Waverley's bridge this weekend. They are the flags of the Swiss cantons of Luzern ( blue and white) and Unterwalden (red and white). They are being flown to welcome two paddle steamer masters (of the flagship PS Stadt Luzern and PS Unterwalden) from SGV, the Lake Lucerne Navigation Company (Schiffahrtgesellschaft des vierwaldstattersee if you prefer) who are visiting Waverley today and tomorrow
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Waverley at Glasgow Science Centre this morning flying the cantonal flags of Unterwalden and Luzern above the wheelhouse
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Post by riverman » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:06 pm

Helensburgh this evening. :)
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Post by SCameron » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:41 pm

The visit by the two Lake Lucerne paddle steamer masters to Waverley on the Clyde this weekend is a reminder of a long association between the two areas with regards to paddle steamers. The first paddle steamers on the lake appeared in the late 1820s after Swiss engineers had visited some of the Clyde's early paddle steamers and, when the famous Swiss engineering firm of Sulzer Brothers of Winterthur provided their first two paddle steamers for the lake, the Schwyz and the Victoria of 1870 they sub-contracted the hulls and paddle gear of the two vessels to Glasgow-based shipbuilders Barclay Curle & Co.
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An early view of the Lake Lucerne paddle steamers Victoria and Schwyz as they would have looked when supplied by Barclay Curle to Sulzer Brothers. During their long association with the lake they were significantly updated and modified
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A view of the Lake Lucerne fleet flagship, PS Stadt Luzern, whose Master, Capt Kuno Stein (whom I've known for the last 20 years) is paying his third visit to Waverley on the Clyde this weekend - his first was 40 years ago during her final summer with Caledonian MacBrayne in 1973! My first visit to the Swiss paddlers was only 38 years ago in 1975, the first year that Waverley was operated under the preservationist banner - when I was still only a teenager!
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Switzerland's second oldest paddle steamer, the Unterwalden of 1902, whose master is also visiting Waverley on the Clyde this Weekend, accompanied by his wife. This picture of Unterwalden was taken by myself 10 years ago during the 2003 Swiss National Day Parade. Subsequent Unterwalden has undergone a £10m refit and is now closer to her original form than is shown in this picture but this view reminds me of one of the most wonderful evening cruises that I've has on the Swiss boats - and there's been a few.

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Post by dougie-coull » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:46 am

SCameron wrote:Check out the two special flags being flown above Waverley's bridge this weekend. They are the flags of the Swiss cantons of Luzern ( blue and white) and Unterwalden (red and white). They are being flown to welcome two paddle steamer masters (of the flagship PS Stadt Luzern and PS Unterwalden) from SGV, the Lake Lucerne Navigation Company (Schiffahrtgesellschaft des vierwaldstattersee if you prefer) who are visiting Waverley today and tomorrow
Thanks for that Stuart - saw her at CHQ this afternoon at was puzzling me - so very pleased you've posted this.

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Post by riverman » Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:51 pm

Waverley on her last cruise today before going south, back in October.
Approaching Helensburgh. :)
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Post by riverman » Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:56 pm

Depart Helensburgh in blustery weather. :wave:
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Post by alasdairmac » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:05 pm

She left Pacific Quay an hour or so ago but is now tied up alongside at BAe Scotstoun. Anyone got any idea why?

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Post by alasdairmac » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:06 pm

Whatever the reason for her brief stop at Scotstoun, she is now abeam Ballantrae and well on her way to Llandudno to play her part in the grand opening of the pier there on Wednesday

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Post by millfield153a » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:19 pm

Unfortunately, Waverley's website tells us that the pier repairs have been delayed - so there will be no grand opening this year and the steamer's destination is showing as Weymouth.

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Post by alasdairmac » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:46 pm

That's a pity. Would probably have been a nice wee earner to help offset the positioning fuel costs.

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Post by bobrobert » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:01 am

I spotted this on Flickr this morning. There are others. The images aren't mine.

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Post by alasdairmac » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:18 am

Looks like they're up at the satellite antenna. First time these techies will have seen a steam-powered one !!! :beer:


edit:been making good overnight progress and now abeam Fishguard, South Wales

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Post by Clydebuilt1971 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:26 pm

Perhaps the main mast running lights. If one of the lamps has blown that would need a cherry picker or crane to access.

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Post by riverclyde_tug » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:49 pm

You are of course correct Clydebuilt, she was having nav light bulbs replaced.

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Post by Clydebuilt1971 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:20 am

SCameron wrote:The visit by the two Lake Lucerne paddle steamer masters to Waverley on the Clyde this weekend is a reminder of a long association between the two areas with regards to paddle steamers. The first paddle steamers on the lake appeared in the late 1820s after Swiss engineers had visited some of the Clyde's early paddle steamers and, when the famous Swiss engineering firm of Sulzer Brothers of Winterthur provided their first two paddle steamers for the lake, the Schwyz and the Victoria of 1870 they sub-contracted the hulls and paddle gear of the two vessels to Glasgow-based shipbuilders Barclay Curle & Co.

Hi Stuart,

Cpt Stein was on board during some of the Western Isles sailings in 2004 I seem to recall? Was that the last time he was on board.

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Post by alasdairmac » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:42 pm

Storm-bound in Southampton for a second day by the looks of it.

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Post by SCameron » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:15 pm

Hi Stuart,

Cpt Stein was on board during some of the Western Isles sailings in 2004 I seem to recall? Was that the last time he was on board.

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Gav, thought it was 2006 but you might be right, I think he'd done some London sails since then.

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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by alasdairmac » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:13 pm

Not a good week: Sunday, Monday and Tuesday lost due to weather and now today to "technical reasons". The old girl is at present making her way east along the coast from Weymouth, hopefully back in full health and on passage to Portsmouth to pick up tomorrow's scheduled sailing from there - fingers crossed.

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Post by Allan » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:02 pm

For those of us who are missing The Waverley, there is a website with a webcam overlooking Tower Bridge - http://blog.visitlondon.com/watch-tower-bridge-live/
Currently base in the Thames, Waverley has booked bridge opening times for this weekend as follows:
Saturday 28th Sept 2200 hrs (upriver)
Sunday 29th Sept 1010 hrs (downriver)
Sunday 29th Sept 2045 hrs (upriver)
Sunday 29th Sept 2140 hrs (downriver)

Still there next weekend, check the website for times.
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Post by Allan » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:44 pm

First attempt at posting a picture -

Waverley passing under Tower Bridge earlier tonight. Apologies for quality - webcam not quite in focus.
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Post by alasdairmac » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:36 am

The old girl must be homesick - she's fleein' along off the north Kent coast heading for the English Channel at 16.5 knots. Fingers crossed for some decent paddling weather this weekend.
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Post by bobrobert » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:02 pm

Please keep us posted if you have some way of tracking it's progress. Last year there was good information on the internet as to how it managed back for the Sunday trip, but the Saturday trip is important and hopefully the weather keeps calm and doesn't hamper her.

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Post by alasdairmac » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:50 pm

Bob, tracking her progress is easy using one of several links to AIS which are available. I use this one:

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais

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Post by bobrobert » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:19 pm

Thanks for that. I will enjoy tracking her and raise a toast when she crosses the border.

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Post by _on_the_clyde_ » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:49 am

Destination: GLASGOW
ETA: 2013-10-16 17:00

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Post by Allan » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:47 pm

Last seen on AIS around 2000hrs, due West of Milford Haven, doing 13.6 knots - then went "out of range" and is still not showing.
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Post by yorkieman » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:26 am

0725 East of Drogheda now, approaching Isle of Man.
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Post by alasdairmac » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:08 am

Notice that she's been hugging the west coast of the Isle of Man, no doubt getting what shelter she can from the SE Gales. Hopefully it won't be too bad when she clears the lee of the island. Still, she's making good progress to be back in Glasgow by dinner time this evening.

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Inbound this murky evening - Welcome Home!

Post by Calum McCulloch » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:24 pm

Welcome back - passing Toward light at 1810 hrs tonight, a miserable evening weather wise!
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Post by Allan » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:53 pm

http://www.marinetraffic.com were launching a new website today - appears to be not working. If you want to track Waverley home, try http://www.shiptracking.eu

She's currently in the Gourock Area.
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Post by Allan » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:07 pm

Just watched her passing GOT, thanks to the webcam at http://saitek1.camstreams.com - well, saw her lights anyway!
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Re: WAVERLEY 2013

Post by riverman » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:17 pm

Penultimate trip of the season on a dreich wet day. A sail up Loch Long. :D
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