HMS DUNCAN

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HMS DUNCAN

Post by Deepol » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:45 pm

At Govan in June. Launch scheduled for Monday 11 October I believe.
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by E28 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:50 pm

This type 45 Duncan will be the 1st grey navy ship to be named after one single individual since the nuclear boat Churchill and the frigate Cleopatra in the '60s.
All 26 of our Leanders were named after characters in mythology except her and Sirius.
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by Malim Sahib » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:44 pm

E28 wrote:This type 45 Duncan will be the 1st grey navy ship to be named after one single individual since the nuclear boat Churchill and the frigate Cleopatra in the '60s.
All 26 of our Leanders were named after characters in mythology except her and Sirius.
Surely HMS Scott (built 1996) counts as being named after a person?
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by E28 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:39 pm

Yes Jim, you are correct in most respects, granted, and i am well aware in that she is much more recent.
Additionally she is H.M.S., grey, has a pendant no, armed with miniguns and MOD operated.

However, i deliberately left her out as she also carries and displays an IMO, she being IMO 9127289.

Consequently as she exceeds 100 GT she is classed as a sea going merchant ship, not a ship of war.
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by Dennis Maccoy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:48 pm

Iron Duke?
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by E28 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:43 pm

Iron Duke and the other 15 type 23's i immediately discounted.
All are named to honour the titles to which the 'Duke' refers but with absolutely no individual names. Except this 1 you mention, Iron Duke, which is a nickname for the 1st Duke of Wellington, him of the boots fame.
At that time Wellington was in use by the RNZN for the ex Bacchante, and they have now 'acquired' the name.
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by Malim Sahib » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:46 pm

Sean,
Regarding Scott having an IMO number, it's worth pointing out that all the Type 45s carry an IMO number too.
That for HMS Duncan is 4907780.
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by E28 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:01 pm

Thanks Jim, i have checked the 45's and the new QE and POW, all which have IMO numbers.
Would you be good enough to explain why this is.
My understanding was they denoted merchant ships and other criteria but certainly not front line warships.
Is this a new ploy.
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by Malim Sahib » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:50 pm

Sean,
I can't profess to being able to offer an accurate answer, however, while compliance with IMO agreed conventions/policies such as MARPOL, SOLAS etc are optional to ships of war, they are encouraged to follow them as much as possible and certainly the UK Govt does try to do that with respect to the RN and RFA.
The IMO numbering system was created essentially to give each individual vessel built forever more a unique numerical identifier, so that regardless of change of name/flag/use/ownership there is at least one ID tag which remains with the ship, thereby simplifying record keeping, or indeed making it easier to seek out information for an individual ship.
I can only assume that the RN are now (voluntarily) following this practice with respect to their newer vessels.
All four of the 'River' class OPV's also have IMO numbers, however they do have a slightly less straightforward ownership arrangement which effectively makes them merchant vessels on charter to the MOD.
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Re: HMS DUNCAN

Post by Daniel GIB » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:46 am

In Malaga on the 16/01/18
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